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	<title>Comments on: Daily Travel Photo &#8211; Phnom Penh, Cambodia</title>
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		<title>By: Dru Stefan Stone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dru Stefan Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 01:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it, as a 3/4 year old...they don&#039;t pose very often, so you have to be ready like you were.  I like the portrait layout...yay!  It works, opening a whole new world for us to see some of your experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it, as a 3/4 year old&#8230;they don&#8217;t pose very often, so you have to be ready like you were.  I like the portrait layout&#8230;yay!  It works, opening a whole new world for us to see some of your experiences.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 03:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps I&#039;ve opened a can of worms, but... &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There&#039;s a difference between what a picture *does* and what the photographer might *want* it to do. Unless an image like this is accompanied at all times by a caption that explains it, what it says visually is simply what it says. Frankly, if an image is powerful enough, what is says visually might overwhelm whatever a caption or description has to say about it. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, you can *say* what you want about an image, but an image, all on its own, says something that is, perhaps, completely different from what it really was. Visual literacy is a different thing than verbal literacy. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In other words, it might very well be that this was an isolated moment that has nothing to do with what I thought (and wrote) about it when I saw it, but those facts do nothing to change what the photograph looks like. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The reason I posted a comment in the first place was that Gary&#039;s written commentary about the image seemed, to me at least, to be completely at odds with what the photograph *did* and *said* as a visual image. I wanted to make the point that one of the jobs that photographers have is to understand not only what images mean but also *how* they mean. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So , this little girl may, in fact, be perfectly innocent and be acting in a perfectly innocent way, but the PICTURE of the little girl says something completely different. Add in the fact that she&#039;s in an orphanage in Cambodia, that she probably has some understanding of and interaction with the wider world through fashion magazines, video, etc, and it doesn&#039;t seem that great a stretch to &quot;read&quot; the photograph in a way that is completely different from what the photographer intended. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One last point has to do with the process of editing and publishing. I don&#039;t know this, of course, but one might suppose that there may have been other photographs made of this same girl at the same time. Or, of other things seen at the orphanage. But, the photographer chose *this* image out of the group of images shot during that time period and, perhaps more importantly, chose to publish *this* image on his blog page (which I found via his post on Twitter). In other words, there are a series of actions involved in photography: Selecting a subject, framing the subject, choosing the moment (or perhaps a series or sequence of moments), editing the images shot down to the select &quot;best&quot; images and then, finally, finishing and presenting the work. A photographer needs to be responsible for all of those things.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I&#39;ve opened a can of worms, but&#8230; </p>
<p>There&#39;s a difference between what a picture *does* and what the photographer might *want* it to do. Unless an image like this is accompanied at all times by a caption that explains it, what it says visually is simply what it says. Frankly, if an image is powerful enough, what is says visually might overwhelm whatever a caption or description has to say about it. </p>
<p>So, you can *say* what you want about an image, but an image, all on its own, says something that is, perhaps, completely different from what it really was. Visual literacy is a different thing than verbal literacy. </p>
<p>In other words, it might very well be that this was an isolated moment that has nothing to do with what I thought (and wrote) about it when I saw it, but those facts do nothing to change what the photograph looks like. </p>
<p>The reason I posted a comment in the first place was that Gary&#39;s written commentary about the image seemed, to me at least, to be completely at odds with what the photograph *did* and *said* as a visual image. I wanted to make the point that one of the jobs that photographers have is to understand not only what images mean but also *how* they mean. </p>
<p>So , this little girl may, in fact, be perfectly innocent and be acting in a perfectly innocent way, but the PICTURE of the little girl says something completely different. Add in the fact that she&#39;s in an orphanage in Cambodia, that she probably has some understanding of and interaction with the wider world through fashion magazines, video, etc, and it doesn&#39;t seem that great a stretch to &#8220;read&#8221; the photograph in a way that is completely different from what the photographer intended. </p>
<p>One last point has to do with the process of editing and publishing. I don&#39;t know this, of course, but one might suppose that there may have been other photographs made of this same girl at the same time. Or, of other things seen at the orphanage. But, the photographer chose *this* image out of the group of images shot during that time period and, perhaps more importantly, chose to publish *this* image on his blog page (which I found via his post on Twitter). In other words, there are a series of actions involved in photography: Selecting a subject, framing the subject, choosing the moment (or perhaps a series or sequence of moments), editing the images shot down to the select &#8220;best&#8221; images and then, finally, finishing and presenting the work. A photographer needs to be responsible for all of those things.</p>
<p>-Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: DrManette</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrManette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m inclined to believe this was just a brief, one second glance at her as she was walking up the stairs. Probably not her learning to sell herself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m inclined to believe this was just a brief, one second glance at her as she was walking up the stairs. Probably not her learning to sell herself.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am with you Gary, I think this is an innocent innocent mid daily ritual.  As with your other portraits, a delightful image from an amazing adventure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am with you Gary, I think this is an innocent innocent mid daily ritual.  As with your other portraits, a delightful image from an amazing adventure!</p>
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		<title>By: jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a really good photo. Good to see you still improving photos skills. That is a main thing dividing us - Adventurers, and simple Tourists. I wrote more about that on my blog &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://extreemblog.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;extreemblog.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a really good photo. Good to see you still improving photos skills. That is a main thing dividing us &#8211; Adventurers, and simple Tourists. I wrote more about that on my blog <b><a href="http://extreemblog.com" rel="nofollow">extreemblog.com</a></b></p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does have a poignant air.  I&#039;m glad you&#039;re adding portrait shots; I think they goive such a good feel for the place. It&#039;s a lovely shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does have a poignant air.  I&#39;m glad you&#39;re adding portrait shots; I think they goive such a good feel for the place. It&#39;s a lovely shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Arndt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Arndt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand why you&#039;d think that based on the photo, but she really wasn&#039;t posing. She was standing like that for only a second. I just happened to catch it. She was going up the stairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand why you&#39;d think that based on the photo, but she really wasn&#39;t posing. She was standing like that for only a second. I just happened to catch it. She was going up the stairs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to guess that the reason she&#039;s dressed as she is and that she&#039;s posed like she&#039;s posed has to do with &quot;selling&quot; herself. Selling herself as an available orphan, which, if she&#039;s not adopted, will translate into selling herself for a living. She&#039;s young enough that it&#039;s a behavior she&#039;s likely learned from watching older children or perhaps even watching women who pose like this. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;d like it better if her eye contact was with you and your camera.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I see this as a sad picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m going to guess that the reason she&#39;s dressed as she is and that she&#39;s posed like she&#39;s posed has to do with &#8220;selling&#8221; herself. Selling herself as an available orphan, which, if she&#39;s not adopted, will translate into selling herself for a living. She&#39;s young enough that it&#39;s a behavior she&#39;s likely learned from watching older children or perhaps even watching women who pose like this. </p>
<p>I&#39;d like it better if her eye contact was with you and your camera.</p>
<p>I see this as a sad picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Cate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You get the feeling she has done this before to other foreigners. Very  precocious by the looks of her manner. I like the link with background and foreground. I think portrait is the way to go when shooting people. You capture much more including body language, lighting. Landscape works for me when I do very tight closeups. Really good shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You get the feeling she has done this before to other foreigners. Very  precocious by the looks of her manner. I like the link with background and foreground. I think portrait is the way to go when shooting people. You capture much more including body language, lighting. Landscape works for me when I do very tight closeups. Really good shot.</p>
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